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Stephen Schneider: We can't avoid the fact that there's already a 400 percent increase in the area of wildfire in the U.S. West. [---1---]

You're listening to Climate scientist Stephen Schneider of Stanford. [---2---]

Stephen Schneider: [---3---] We don't want to see it go to four to six to eight, where we could have not only catastrophic mega-fires, but also catastrophic mega-hurricanes.

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Stephen Schneider: But they're only 10 or 15 percent stronger. Let's not let them go to 40 percent. Let's not let us get three or six degrees warming.

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Stephen Schneider: But what to actually do about that, which can be a decision from school boards trying to figure out whether to have new green schools, right up to national issues where we want to put a price on carbon or incentives to people to invent our way out of the problem.

All he said is to simply put what we want to do climate change sounds nicer. But, alternatively, society will decide. I'm Jorge Salazar. ES is a clear voice for science. We're at

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That goes along with the fact that the summers are hotter, and the summers are longer. He spoke about avoidable and unavoidable climate impacts at the March 2009 climate summit in Washington. But we can certainly avoid having it going to massive proportions by trying to keep the warming not much more than another one or two degrees. He said hurricanes are more intense now than 40 years ago, with the evidence pointing to warmer oceans from global warming. He said science can only assess the risk.